Brendan Rodgers

[Vermilion]

Its not any logical conclusion unless you are ready to dismiss the chances of any manager after all they nearly all get sacked in the end and the average life expectancy for a manager has never been shorter.

Was anyone calling for his head this time last year?

Yes i'm sure there were, many felt he'd ****ed up a brilliant opportunity, with utd and Chelsea under performing, many didn't think he was right from the beginning too.

But i do understand your point, we're talking numbers, and the number of fans that now want rid is massive in comparison to then.

[Keyser Soze]

Its not any logical conclusion unless you are ready to dismiss the chances of any manager after all they nearly all get sacked in the end and the average life expectancy for a manager has never been shorter.

Was anyone calling for his head this time last year?

Some were.
They'd seen that during his entire coaching career he has never been able to setup a defence. Add to that Suarez was leaving and replacing his goals was almost impossible.
Then in the summer there was no resemblance of a plan or strategy when buying players.

He's inexperienced, we cannot afford for him to be cutting his teeth with us (otherwise we have seasons like this one) and that is why you go for someone with a bit of experience.

[Nicey]

You don't think Gerrard may just have been worn down by it all ? i for one lay no blame at his door for yesterday or this season tbh, the bloke has been exemplary in his captaincy of lfc, a near 17 yrs of consistency, every time being let down by either managers, players or owners, and yes he's had bad spells and can be blamed for some things, but they have been few and far between. imo.

As i say i'm not excusing him of everything ever, just feel there are more worthy recipients for blame is all.

Then he should have gone at the start of this utterly **** season... I have never thought he was a great captain ever .. great player but not a great captain ... legend of a player ... legend servant to the club ... but lacked real leadership chops ... Gerrard is a born winner and that quality drove him and his team to win games ... he did not drive his team mates in my opinion ... I dont give him a pass, I did not give him a pass when he went on against United and got sent off in 30 seconds ... since that slip against Chelsea his head has permanently dropped ... last game aside ... hes the ****ing captain ... thats his team has much as its Rodgers ... I ask you .. did he looked even slightly bothered about that result yesterday ...

Adam Lalanna was a ****ehouse of ginormous porportions yesterday ... that said I think he is wasted on the wing easily isolated and just ****ed off the ball like he was an under 16s player ... god that ****ing result hurt

[Rigadon]

hang on! we nearly won the league last year! Yes , luis suarez was a big part of that but the fact is twice he got the best out of Suarez, plus we played amazing football.

the biggest critcism I can aim at Rodgers is his signings of Borini; and Lambert. i cant blame him for taking a punt on Balotelli.

Lambert has been exposed as a championship striker ala Charlie Austin, and I hate to say it, Danny Ings. They have enough nous to beat average defenders but not top class ones.

I would not sell balotelli this summer but give him a chance up to December. He has more about him, if he can mature.

No one has mentioned our famous psychologist this year.

I am old enough to remember the early days of Fergie. It wasnt so great. Arguably Rodgers job is more difficult now because of the monetary imbalance that exists between Chelsea, Man U, Man City and even Arsenal.

I think Rodgers deserves a little more respect than this sort of comment.

I think that he is a truely honourable man.

We did play excellent football last year and up to March, this year, we had a chance of finishing 2nd (again).

I also remember Fergie's first few years at UTD - some of his transfers were expensive and awful and he appeared to lose the dressing room (poor football and poor results). He was saved by the development of his younger players. I can see similarities between this Liverpool team/squad and Utd's squad (mid/late 80's).

Also - some of the comments on here are really disrespectful. Rodgers is our manager and he appears to be a decent guy. He deserves more respect.

[Nicey]

I would have been firmly in the give Rodgers another Season camp ... but after that result and the manner of the performance of all aspects of that game, I would be actively going after Kloop, I would be talking to people and if a top of the foodchain manager does not want the job... give Rodgers 1 more season ... just the worst ****ing time to put in a performacne like that ... have stoke ever scored 6 in there entire history .... man if it was Arsenal it would hurt like a ******* .. but ****ing Stoke ... I hope that shower of cunts get food poisoning in Dubai and are on the ****ter for 14 hours

[Vermilion]

Then he should have gone at the start of this utterly **** season... I have never thought he was a great captain ever .. great player but not a great captain ... legend of a player ... legend servant to the club ... but lacked real leadership chops ... Gerrard is a born winner and that quality drove him and his team to win games ... he did not drive his team mates in my opinion ... I dont give him a pass, I did not give him a pass when he went on against United and got sent off in 30 seconds ... since that slip against Chelsea his head has permanently dropped ... last game aside ... hes the ****ing captain ... thats his team has much as its Rodgers ... I ask you .. did he looked even slightly bothered about that result yesterday ...

Adam Lalanna was a ****ehouse of ginormous porportions yesterday ... that said I think he is wasted on the wing easily isolated and just ****ed off the ball like he was an under 16s player ... god that ****ing result hurt

He's about to leave the club, the only club he's ever played for, off to America to live, play, experience another type of life.

I can forgive him for having his mind on his own future for once. Not going to even get into the bit about him not being a good captain.

[ChrisDR1968]

Over the last 10 games in league and cup we've won 2 drawn 2 and lost 6 including that humiliation against Stoke.

Really, really hard to see FSG keeping Rodgers on after that run of results.

It was that sort of form (in the league) that got Kenny sacked in 2012.

[BootRoom]

Its not any logical conclusion unless you are ready to dismiss the chances of any manager after all they nearly all get sacked in the end and the average life expectancy for a manager has never been shorter.

Was anyone calling for his head this time last year?

What have other Managers got to do with it? We're talking about Brendan Rodgers. If FSG pull the trigger now, can it be claimed that Rodgers has made a material difference to our history such that we are now better off, or will be in the future? He's won zero trophies and we don't owe him a debt for saving us from relegation. After spending tens of millions we're not far off where we started.

You could argue over the outcome of a different Manager being appointed, suggesting it could have been a lot worse than Rodgers achieved, but that would be pure conjecture. As it stands, given what he has achieved, or rather hasn't, IF FSG give him the boot then it's easy to conclude that he shouldn't have been appointed in the first place.

[Nicey]

He's about to leave the club, the only club he's ever played for, off to America to live, play, experience another type of life.

I can forgive him for having his mind on his own future for once. Not going to even get into the bit about him not being a good captain.

fair enough ..... I hope our next captain knows exactly how to lead a bunch of men .... to make sure nobody goes ****ing missing let alone an entire team

[redmike65]

Then he should have gone at the start of this utterly **** season... I have never thought he was a great captain ever .. great player but not a great captain ... legend of a player ... legend servant to the club ... but lacked real leadership chops ... Gerrard is a born winner and that quality drove him and his team to win games ... he did not drive his team mates in my opinion ... I dont give him a pass, I did not give him a pass when he went on against United and got sent off in 30 seconds ... since that slip against Chelsea his head has permanently dropped ... last game aside ... hes the ****ing captain ... thats his team has much as its Rodgers ... I ask you .. did he looked even slightly bothered about that result yesterday ...

Ha someone after my own heart!

I'll just throw this bomb in - I'd have got rid of Gerrard in summer 2010 - it was already clear his earlier "dynamics" were in decline and without that power he offered little beyond a good penalty. Now as it happens that was the "Summer of Roy" so its just as well he never got his hands on the money raised but as mentioned above Gerrards never been a true leader on the pitch. If he does something its purely through physical actions not good psychology, generosity or calm thinking. Indeed quite the opposite he cowed other players, got angry at them for being scared of him, would lose the head trying to make up for his own or others shortcomings. Liverpools middle has worked better without him for years and this season gone that was particularly true. Take out Gerrard and put in Lucas you have a quite different animal and one that worked much better.

Still he's gone now and if we got someone of Geoffrey Kondogbia style and quality (see transfer thread) then the side will look far more secure.

[Nicey]

Over the last 10 games in league and cup we've won 2 drawn 2 and lost 6 including that humiliation against Stoke.

Really, really hard to see FSG keeping Rodgers on after that run of results.

It was that sort of form (in the league) that got Kenny sacked in 2012.

It really is not good enough and I am big Rodgers fan ... weak very very weak .... game in game out ... no heart ... confidence shot .. no fight and actually very little of the rodgerseque football we all loved last season

[BootRoom]

If you're happy for us to finish 6th then I'm not going to try to persuade you otherwise, I'm not happy with our results or the manner of our defeats. We had a dreadful first half of the season, Rodgers seemed incapable of dealing with the issues - mainly with the defence. I'm not a Rodgers fan, but FSG appointed him and whilst the season is underway I will try to support the manager. I'm sure that he's a goner now anyway so I just hope that FSG replace him with someone who can get the best out of the players we have, attract some decent players to the club and introduce a better balance and structure to the team.

I said 6th is a poor finish, how does that suggest happiness? If you're not going to answer the specific point I make it's pointless replying.

[peekay]

We did play excellent football last year and up to March, this year, we had a chance of finishing 2nd (again).

I also remember Fergie's first few years at UTD - some of his transfers were expensive and awful and he appeared to lose the dressing room (poor football and poor results). He was saved by the development of his younger players. I can see similarities between this Liverpool team/squad and Utd's squad (mid/late 80's).

Also - some of the comments on here are really disrespectful. Rodgers is our manager and he appears to be a decent guy. He deserves more respect.

Before Ferguson joined Utd, he had a track record at Aberdeen which was impressive. Every top club in Europe wanted him. Unfortunately Rodgers does not have that. If he had a track record of winning something at the highest level at a decent league, I think lot more fans would be patient and accommodating. He has nothing in his CV which would assuage the doubts of fans. Every failure only serves to magnify those doubts.

I have not read all the posts here, so I am not sure how many posts have been abusive. But I do agree with you that if he is fired ( and I do want him gone), he should leave with dignity and our goodwill. Maybe the job came a bit too soon for him in his career and he made mistakes but he tried his best.

[Nicey]

Ha someone after my own heart!

I'll just throw this bomb in - I'd have got rid of Gerrard in summer 2010 - it was already clear his earlier "dynamics" were in decline and without that power he offered little beyond a good penalty. Now as it happens that was the "Summer of Roy" so its just as well he never got his hands on the money raised but as mentioned above Gerrards never been a true leader on the pitch. If he does something its purely through physical actions not good psychology, generosity or calm thinking. Indeed quite the opposite he cowed other players, got angry at them for being scared of him, would lose the head trying to make up for his own or others shortcomings. Liverpools middle has worked better without him for years and this season gone that was particularly true. Take out Gerrard and put in Lucas you have a quite different animal and one that worked much better.

Still he's gone now and if we got someone of Geoffrey Kondogbia style and quality (see transfer thread) then the side will look far more secure.

The only good thing I can see regarding our captaincy .. perhaps for the first time in 20 plus years we have an opportunity to go out and buy a captain ... someone brought to the club to bloody lead ...not by reputation but by actual leadership skill and quality

[TheElephantMan]

I said 6th is a poor finish, how does that suggest happiness? If you're not going to answer the specific point I make it's pointless replying.

I couldn't care less whether I have answered your specific point or haven't. Just venting a little on an LFC website after a dreadful result at the end of a ****e season.