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    Originally posted by poobear View Post
    I bet if we looked back at the money spent having to trade as we had cancerous owners and little money beforehand, compared to the ones that have backed the current incumbent, that we made a profit from Rafa's dealings. Plus, when he left, he left a far superior squad to the one that we have now.

    Case in point, 293m spent by Brendan and the transfer committee, I'd say we'd be lucky to get even, being kind a huge financial loss. The money wasted is beyond belief.....

    However, not sure why Rafa was brought up in a Brendan thread........

    Fabio Borini Roma £10,400,000 13 July 2012
    Joe Allen Swansea City £15,000,000 10 August 2012
    Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen £3,000,000 17 August 2012
    Nuri Sahin Real Madrid On Loan 25 August 2012
    Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen £1,000,000 30 August 2012
    Daniel Sturridge Chelsea £12,000,000 2 January 2013
    Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan £8,500,000 30 January 2013
    Luis Alberto Sevilla £6,800,000 22 June 2013
    Iago Aspas Celta Vigo £7,000,000 23 June 2013
    Simon Mignolet Sunderland £9,000,000 25 June 2013
    Kolo Touré Free Transfer Free 2 July 2013
    Aly Cissokho Valencia On Loan * 20 August 2013
    Mamadou Sakho Paris St Germain £15,000,000 2 September 2013
    Tiago Ilori Sporting Lisbon £7,000,000 2 September 2013
    Victor Moses Chelsea On Loan * 2 September 2013
    Rickie Lambert Southampton £4,500,000 2 June 2014
    Adam Lallana Southampton £25,000,000 * 1 July 2014
    Emre Can Bayer Leverkusen £9,750,000 3 July 2014
    Lazar Markovic Benfica £19,800,000 15 July 2014
    Dejan Lovren Southampton £20,000,000 * 27 July 2014
    Divick Origi Lille £9,800,000 * 29 July 2014
    Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid On Loan 6 August 2014
    Alberto Moreno Sevilla £12,000,000 * 16 August 2014
    Mario Balotelli AC Milan £16,000,000 25 August 2014
    Joe Gomez Charlton Athletic £6,000,000 * 20 June 2015
    Adam Bogdan Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015
    Danny Ings Free Transfer Unknown * 1 July 2015
    James Milner Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015
    Nathaniel Clyne Southampton £12,500,000 1 July 2015
    Roberto Firmino Hoffenheim £29,000,000 * 6 July 2015
    Christian Benteke Aston Villa £32,500,000 22 July 2015

    And that's before we get onto, which of these were his and which were the transfer committees.
    Not getting into a Rodgers vs Rafa thing but no matter what way you dress that up, overall that is some catalogue of mediocrity
    Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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      He's actually gone crazy!

      @TheTeleFootball: Brendan Rodgers backs Lovren and believes he can compete with the likes of Thiago Silva in the future. #LFC http://t.co/PlVJHfkOno

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        Whoosh

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            Yeah you have to take into account money vs productivity. What did they actually do for the club in their time here. Going through that list there is only a handful of players you could pick out that could be considered a success.

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              Originally posted by danperkins View Post
              Yeah you have to take into account money vs productivity. What did they actually do for the club in their time here. Going through that list there is only a handful of players you could pick out that could be considered a success.
              If you laid most clubs' transfers out like that they'd look similarly ****.

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                Originally posted by Saveloy View Post
                If you laid most clubs' transfers out like that they'd look similarly ****.
                True but our is pretty hideous

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                  Originally posted by poobear View Post

                  However, not sure why Rafa was brought up in a Brendan thread........
                  To give some context to the tweet you quoted. The turnover of players is nothing new to the club, nor is it actually unusual in the right league now. Just look at how many players Chelsea have on loan. How many players are leaving United?

                  Of course, the point you went on to make was an entirely different one. That of quality, rather than quantity.
                  Oh I don't know.

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                    Originally posted by Irishnev View Post
                    He's actually gone crazy!

                    @TheTeleFootball: Brendan Rodgers backs Lovren and believes he can compete with the likes of Thiago Silva in the future. #LFC http://t.co/PlVJHfkOno

                    Every time I see something like that, it makes me want to see the back of Brendan a little but more.... I want him to succeed, it's just my belief that it is possible takes a spanking every time Brendan opens his mouth.

                    He's going all houllier on it with comparisons like that....

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                      It's also complete bollocks as in made up **** from a fake account on twitter.

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                        Just to list it, we have:

                        Originally posted by poobear View Post
                        Fabio Borini Roma £10,400,000 13 July 2012
                        Joe Allen Swansea City £15,000,000 10 August 2012
                        Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen £3,000,000 17 August 2012
                        Nuri Sahin Real Madrid On Loan 25 August 2012
                        Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen £1,000,000 30 August 2012
                        Daniel Sturridge Chelsea £12,000,000 2 January 2013
                        Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan £8,500,000 30 January 2013
                        Luis Alberto Sevilla £6,800,000 22 June 2013
                        Iago Aspas Celta Vigo £7,000,000 23 June 2013
                        Simon Mignolet Sunderland £9,000,000 25 June 2013
                        Kolo Touré Free Transfer Free 2 July 2013
                        Aly Cissokho Valencia On Loan * 20 August 2013
                        Mamadou Sakho Paris St Germain £15,000,000 2 September 2013
                        Tiago Ilori Sporting Lisbon £7,000,000 2 September 2013
                        Victor Moses Chelsea On Loan * 2 September 2013
                        Rickie Lambert Southampton £4,500,000 2 June 2014
                        Adam Lallana Southampton £25,000,000 * 1 July 2014
                        Emre Can Bayer Leverkusen £9,750,000 3 July 2014
                        Lazar Markovic Benfica £19,800,000 15 July 2014
                        Dejan Lovren Southampton £20,000,000 * 27 July 2014
                        Divick Origi Lille £9,800,000 * 29 July 2014
                        Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid On Loan 6 August 2014
                        Alberto Moreno Sevilla £12,000,000 * 16 August 2014
                        Mario Balotelli AC Milan £16,000,000 25 August 2014
                        Joe Gomez Charlton Athletic £6,000,000 * 20 June 2015
                        Adam Bogdan Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015
                        Danny Ings Free Transfer Unknown * 1 July 2015
                        James Milner Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015
                        Nathaniel Clyne Southampton £12,500,000 1 July 2015
                        Roberto Firmino Hoffenheim £29,000,000 * 6 July 2015
                        Christian Benteke Aston Villa £32,500,000 22 July 2015
                        .
                        vs

                        Josemi Rey Malaga £2,000,000 26.07.2004
                        Antonio Nunez Real Madrid £1,500,000 17.08.2004
                        Luis Garcia Barcelona £6,000,000 20.08.2004
                        Xabi Alonso Real Sociedad £10,700,000 20.08.2004
                        Mauricio Pellegrino Valencia Free 05.01.2005
                        Fernando Morientes Real Madrid £6,300,000 13.01.2005
                        Scott Carson Leeds United £1,000,000 21.01.2005
                        Antonio Barragan Sevilla £240,000 04.07.2005
                        Boudewijn Zenden Free Transfer Free 04.07.2005
                        Jose Reina Villareal £6,000,000 04.07.2005
                        Mohamed Sissoko Valencia £5,600,000 14.07.2005
                        Peter Crouch Southampton £7,000,000 20.07.2005
                        Godwin Antwi Real Zaragoza Unknown 15.08.2005
                        Miki Roque Lleida Unknown 15.08.2005
                        Jack Hobbs Lincoln City £150,000 18.08.2005
                        Besian Idrizaj LASK Linz £190,000 22.08.2005
                        Mark Gonzalez Albacete £1,500,000 20.10.2005
                        Paul Anderson Hull City Player Exchange 01.01.2006
                        Jan Kromkamp Villareal Player Exchange 04.01.2006
                        Daniel Agger Brøndby £5,800,000 12.01.2006
                        David Martin MK Dons £250,000 12.01.2006
                        Robbie Fowler Man City Free 27.01.2006
                        Craig Bellamy Blackburn £6,000,000 01.07.2006
                        Gabriel Paletta Club Atlético Banfield £2,000,000 04.07.2006
                        Fábio Aurélio Valencia Free 05.07.2006
                        Jermaine Pennant Birmingham £6,700,000 26.07.2006
                        Dirk Kuyt Feyenoord £9,000,000 18.08.2006
                        Nabil El Zhar St Etienne £200,000 21.08.2006
                        Astrit Ajdarevic Falkenberg £750,000 11.01.2007
                        Daniele Padelli Sampdoria On Loan 12.01.2007
                        Jordy Brouwer Ajax Undisclosed 24.01.2007
                        Francisco Durán Malaga £66,000* 30.01.2007
                        Ronald Huth Tacuary FC Undisclosed 31.01.2007
                        Álvaro Arbeloa Deportivo £2,500,000 31.01.2007
                        Javier Mascherano West Ham On Loan 20.02.2007
                        Lucas Leiva Gremio £5,000,000 11.05.2007
                        Mikel San José Domínguez Athletic Bilbao £270,000 28.06.2007
                        Sebastian Leto Club Atlético Lanús £1,800,000 01.07.2007
                        Fernando Torres Atletico Madrid £20,200,000 04.07.2007
                        Andriy Voronin Leverkusen Free 06.07.2007
                        Yossi Benayoun West Ham £5,000,000 12.07.2007
                        Ryan Babel Ajax £11,500,000 13.07.2007
                        Charles Itandje Lens Undisclosed 09.08.2007
                        Emiliano Insúa Boca Juniors £1,300,000 26.08.2007
                        Martin Skrtel Zenit St Petersburg £6,500,000 11.01.2008
                        Javier Mascherano Media Sports Investment £17,000,000 29.02.2008
                        Philipp Degen Dortmund Free 03.07.2008
                        Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 04.07.2008
                        Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 11.07.2008
                        David Ngog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 24.07.2008
                        Robbie Keane Tottenham £19,000,000 28.07.2008
                        Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 31.08.2008
                        Victor Palsson AGF Aarhus undisc 02.01.2009

                        53 players in 5 seasons.

                        I'm a huge Rafa fan. But signing lots of players, many of whom don't work out, isn't a new phenomenon. By and large it comes from not being top dog, so you're constantly looking for the next big thing rather than being able to sign proven quality in every position. Some great signings in that Rafa list though, and most of the failures were at least cheap (bar Dossena, Riera, Keane and Babel - and we recouped a fair amount on a couple of those).

                        The two key differences between then (Rafa) and now in my opinion are a) We now have owners looking to invest for the long term rather than a quick boost and asset strip, even if they haven't quite worked out how best to go about it yet, and b) whereas in Rafa's day he had control over who we signed and it was all done to suit his system, the lines are blurred now which means we seem to be wasting money on players that are decent but are never likely to fit into the way we're currently playing (e.g. Markovic).

                        We need a clear strategy IMO - if we spend big it should be on proven quality, and if we sign young lads they should be players that are suited to both the premiership and the long-term philosophy of the club (i.e. to put it simply they should be able to pass a ball and not be weak as a day old baby).

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                          Blimey, I'd completely forgotten that Scott Carson played for us.

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                            Vs juve no less.
                            3rd place. Worst champions ever.

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                              Besian Idrizaj RIP
                              Like blood on iron

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                                Originally posted by Chazza View Post
                                It's also complete bollocks as in made up **** from a fake account on twitter.

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