Brendan Rodgers

[DannyMan2006]

Time will tell if FSG are right type of owners to take us back where we belong but I don't believe they would use deception and lies to first attract the manager and then strip him from making decisions in the area that is so vital for his success.

That approach would be detrimental and JWH is too savvy investor and businessman to operate like that.

I think Rodgers is the one in charge of bringing and letting go of players but I do believe that FSG does have "value for money" approach where Rodgers is expected to work within established framework (Dempsey case for example).

Exactly as I see things.

[el matador]

When signed, Rodgers said he had been scouting Assaidi at Swansea. I'm not convinced he was against his signing. And if he was, I can only imagine we were already committed to his signing ala Cisse. I guarantee, every player that comes in will be on the say so of Rodgers, they just may not be his first choices.

I'm not sure about that at all mate.

If we take fsgs perspective in that we tried to do it the old fashioned way when Kenny bought all those signings backed by comolli and it backfired on us so what's to stop them doing it their own way.

With a young manager at the helm maybe he's easier to bully or manipulate than a older head like rafa or a van gaal. I honestly think that Dave fallows who's officially the director of football is a pretty big voice on that committee.

hes not just the head of scouting that's for sure.

[DannyMan2006]

I'm not sure about that at all mate.

If we take fsgs perspective in that we tried to do it the old fashioned way when Kenny bought all those signings backed by comolli and it backfired on us so what's to stop them doing it their own way.

With a young manager at the helm maybe he's easier to bully or manipulate than a older head like rafa or a van gaal. I honestly think that Dave fallows who's officially the director of football is a pretty big voice on that committee.

hes not just the head of scouting that's for sure.

And why would they take the word of a scout over a manager? Fallows has done nothing to suggest he would know any better. He's a scout, pure & simple.

[G]

Don't think we have the intention of waiting around as long as Arsenal did. And unlike Arsenal, we will not be intentionally selling of players at peak value, as Rodgers said in that interview you keep mentioning. Arsenal put up for sale the likes of Overmars, Viera, Petit, Pires & Henry. That is something we would not do. The only ones they've tried to keep are RVP and to a lesser extent, Nasri. Obviously, nothing they could have done about Cesc.

I "keep mentioning it", because people thought it was artistic licence on my part and not what he actually said so I had to clarify, numerous times

As for the rest the first batch you list intentionally sold where we'll past the peak at the time and Arsenal were still successful at the time. They embarked on the new plan after those sales and it's got them precisely nowhere.

They are a businessman's dream though.

[Phoenix07]

That approach would be detrimental and JWH is too savvy investor and businessman to operate like that.

I think Rodgers is the one in charge of bringing and letting go of players but I do believe that FSG does have "value for money" approach where Rodgers is expected to work within established framework (Dempsey case for example).

Love to know where this "value for money" approach is, especially from the amount of money we've wasted under their ownership in transfer fees and non-playing staff turnover costs.

@el matador, Fallows is the Head of Scouting. Whether he has DOF-like responsibilities in that his voice counts as that of a DOF is questionable. Not impossible, but I'm not sure.

[Chazza]

I "keep going back on about it", because people thought it was artistic licence on my part and not what he actually said so I had to clarify, numerous times
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But did he actually say it?

[G]

But did he actually say it?

Hey Chazza, **** off

[little dave hedgehog]

Hey Chazza, **** off

is that a yes or a no?

[el matador]

And why would they take the word of a scout over a manager? Fallows has done nothing to suggest he would know any better. He's a scout, pure & simple.

he's definitely not just a scout mate. Just trust me on this.

[G]

is that a yes or a no?

You too

[Red_Polo]

we were talking about marking posts at corners which is about as basic as it can get.

Yes it is basic - basic meaning nothing more than rudimentary thinking. It isn't a method proven beyond all doubt to the the best though, is it? Others can quite reasonably hold a different opinion and make a case for not marking posts. This put it quite nicely...

It's a similar situation when it comes to putting men next to posts at corners -- it looks ridiculous when a goal is conceded. Why was there no one there? But no one mentions, of course, that if you don’t have two men on posts, the players don't vanish from the penalty box – they help defend the ball with their teammates and ensure there's less chance of the ball reaching the goal in the first place.

Yet such scenarios are less noticeable. You never hear a pundit say, "Well, they cleared that corner effectively -- that’s why you don’t put men on posts!" Neither, when a goal is conceded with two men on the posts, are we told, "Well, if they didn't have men on posts, they might have stopped the header coming in!" But both are legitimate points, and over time, the statistics might indicate that putting no one on posts is beneficial.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/225?cc=5739

What you do with your kids isn't necessarily what top pros should be doing. What you know is not all that there is, and I think it's probably wise to think on that before you come out with comments suggesting Rodgers is clueless.

[Fosterbloke]

He was £8.5m and had been a revelation at Forest. He was hardly a bargain or an amazing diacoveey

I forgot he played there before we signed him! I always thought we signed him directly from Southend.

[Neil Young]

Yes it is basic - basic meaning nothing more than rudimentary thinking. It isn't a method proven beyond all doubt to the the best though, is it? Others can quite reasonably hold a different opinion and make a case for not marking posts. This put it quite nicely...

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/blog/_/name/tacticsandanalysis/id/225?cc=5739

What you do with your kids isn't necessarily what top pros should be doing. What you know is not all that there is, and I think it's probably wise to think on that before you come out with comments suggesting Rodgers is clueless.

I think I made that point earlier.

[DannyMan2006]

he's definitely not just a scout mate. Just trust me on this.

Hmm, if not I'd be interested to know how it's all set up.

[G]

A fair assessment on Rodgers and the club as a whole by Paul tomkins is free on his site.

As usual its long but I found it quite fair.