Brendan Rodgers

[Slinky Skills]

I don't think in any organisation you can dodge every bullet when you are in a key position. We need more than excuses here.

Rodgers undoubtedly has to provide some answers to the board, and also outline his vision for the future. If you can only come up with excuses as to why things have gone wrong, then any board in any business would and should fire you - Brendan needs to offer more.

I'd say this summer will one way or other be the defining moment in his career as Manager of LFC. He shouldn't be getting an easy ride right now, the questions of his ability are valid, and asking them doesn't make you less of a supporter - it is more complicated than that. Rodgers is a grown man in an incredibly privileged position, with that comes great pressure to perform and deliver results. We don't look back we look forward. The greatest LFC teams, in fact all of the great teams carry this ethos 100%.

For me, currently, I don't think I care if he stays or goes, so long as the result is an improvement. The worry is we stagnate, as current performance and this season as a whole has been a backwards step, we haven't consolidated we've gone backwards - no question. The season has contained more bad performances than good, and more worryingly a complete lack of direction, some shocking management decisions (Line up v. Madrid, persistence with failing tactics and ailing players). So we need some off field impetus in the summer, and that will come in either the shape of a few eye-catching signings, or a new manager and some eye -catching signings.

We are going out with a whimper not a bang, and after the fireworks of last season this season ends about as badly as any I can remember in some time. Without passion. And that is unforgiveable.

One of the best posts I've read on here.

[baitman]

One of the best posts I've read on here.

have you seen the PoF thread

[Slinky Skills]

have you seen the PoF thread

That thread is long gone sadly.

[baitman]

That thread is long gone sadly.

you have destroyed this forum for future generations

[Slinky Skills]

you have destroyed this forum for future generations

You never know Dave. I may just bring back one day ha ha!!! If the mods allow it.

[Shaggy]

Really?
That explains a lot.

Yep. David Dein is another.

[Marvel]

My comment on Brendan Rogers having seen him over the last three years and seen him operate under different levels of stress based on results is the following.

No one can take away from him that he, with Luis Suarez created the most attacking exciting team I have seen from Liverpool since 1988. That success cannot be sniffed at. He did this with a combination of an inherited squad and some of his own players and with youth which he brought through.

At times this season Liverpool looked like they would recapture that sort of form and indeed we did for a bout 8 weeks. Things derailed roughly about the same time Sterling lost concentration and Gerrard came back. THese two factors destabilised the team in my mind.

What I see about Brendan is that he communicates with the press very well, but I have a nagging doubt about whether he dominates the team with his personality as great managers do.

THe interview done by Sterling suggests that this is not the case.

A top manager needs to bend all the players towards his point of view vision and have everybody on side and even if they are not on side they should understand the consequences, and understand their position within the team.

I am not sure that Brendan does this, but I do think that the likes of Shankly, Paisely, LVG, Ferguson, Wenger and Mourihno and other top managers did or do.

THe bottom line is tha I beleive that Brendan is a great coach, but will never be a great manager. I may be premature in my assessment, but I think he is probably too empathetic, and probably not enough sociopathic.

To succeed you need to have a steel drive. Not sure Brendan has this, but as a coach he is up there at the top.

THis suggests that Liverpool would need a Director Of Football model whilst Brendan remains as a manager.

thats how I see the situation.

Nice post.

the way he bombed out carroll, mistreated markovic, rickie lambert etc suggests he does have the balls to make big calls or difficult decisions, but his collusion with gerrard on the other hand seriously undermines his credibility.

My own view is the same as yours in that he is a very good person to work with the under 21s and young lads who he can develop nicely. but does he have the desire to win at all costs mentality that separates the good managers from the great ones. I dont think he does.

In the games v villa, west brom and hull we didnt see that winning mentality, we didnt see the desperation to win those games. It was a case of sticking with the game plan and hoping it worked instead of trying to force things.

why not pump long balls into their box and work off a centre back or a target man. There was no big build up at the end, nothing at all. Hes not willing to take the risks that are necessary in some situations to turn a loss into a draw or a draw into a win.

[Keyser Soze]

Coco the clown can **** right off with his opinion, the cunt. He's one of the main reasons we haven't won the league in 25 years.

[Alex]

Eh?

[meffin]

He's referring to Parry's comments

[Alex]

Ah, ok.

Well it's not exactly constructive.

[Slinky Skills]

Ah, ok.

Well it's not exactly constructive.

[Frenchie]

Yep. David Dein is another.

I heard this too from an ex-pat here in Mexico who's family were the original Tesco founders.

He is a good friend of David Dein and has shares in racehorses with him etc.

He had mentioned some time back that Dein was advising Henry and he hitched a ride on Henry's jet with him once.

Had always said that the management were amateurs in comparison to the Arse.

[Keyser Soze]

Ah, ok.

Well it's not exactly constructive.

The majority of this thread is not constructive, tea ladies ffs.

[baitman]

The majority of this thread is not constructive, tea ladies ffs.

quite right too. lets have more dog pics