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    #1966
    Originally posted by Alex View Post
    No he's not really. You cant expect him to totally bomb him out of the side can you? But he doesnt really start at the moment. Apart from last night when did he first start? I cant remember, Oldham maybe?
    Well he is

    Big Chief cant have it both ways, he has either admitted his mistakes or he hasnt
    Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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      #1967
      Originally posted by Lecter View Post
      Well he is

      Big Chief cant have it both ways, he has either admitted his mistakes or he hasnt
      But he is picking on form. Hence why Allen hasnt been starting recently and Henderson has. How is that not learning from mistakes?

      Edit: Since December 22nd he has started 2 out of 10 games, and in the last 4 he has played 1 minute in total.
      Last edited by Alex; 15-02-13, 02:11 PM.
      *Except Michael, who died.

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        #1968
        Originally posted by Alex View Post
        Since December 22nd he has started 2 out of 10 games, and in the last 4 he has played 1 minute in total.
        You're right he was totally anonymous last night
        Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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          #1969
          Obviously I was talking about the league.
          *Except Michael, who died.

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            #1970
            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
            Well he is

            Big Chief cant have it both ways, he has either admitted his mistakes or he hasnt
            How many games has Allen started since he went rubbish? I wouldn't say as many as for example Downing did last season. I think this argument has come to its logical conclusion to be honest.

            Edit: Thanks for digging out the stats Alex. That should put this argument to bed.
            One tit for another.

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              #1971
              Originally posted by BigChief View Post
              How many games has Allen started since he went rubbish? I wouldn't say as many as for example Downing did last season. I think this argument has come to its logical conclusion to be honest.
              Hes still being played no matter how you dress it up and we still keep losing when hes played so clearly lessons havent been learned
              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                #1972
                He hasnt been played though. You are not getting this. 2 starts in 10 is hardly consistent, Lec. Henderson is being picked ahead of him on form in the league.
                *Except Michael, who died.

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                  #1973
                  Originally posted by Alex View Post
                  He hasnt been played though. You are not getting this. 2 starts in 10 is hardly consistent, Lec.
                  He shouldnt even be played twice

                  The fact that he is and we lose those two games is testimony to the lessons not being learned

                  If the lesson was thoroughly learned Allen wouldnt start a game between now and end May
                  Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                    #1974
                    So when Joe Allen plays we lose. Simple as that in your mind.

                    What about West Brom on Monday? It seems you are wanting to blame someone, and he is the easy target at the moment.
                    *Except Michael, who died.

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                      #1975
                      Originally posted by Alex View Post
                      So when Joe Allen plays we lose. Simple as that in your mind.

                      What about West Brom on Monday? It seems you are wanting to blame someone, and he is the easy target at the moment.
                      When Allen plays the chances of losing exponentially increase

                      I've been criticising Allen for months so it isnt kneejerk or a momentary thing

                      I genuinely think hes a massive weak link in an already exposed midfield
                      Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                        #1976
                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                        When Allen plays the chances of losing exponentially increase

                        I've been criticising Allen for months so it isnt kneejerk or a momentary thing

                        I genuinely think hes a massive weak link in an already exposed midfield
                        He is not good enough (unless we want to become regular mid table fodder) and has shown little to suggest he ever will be.
                        "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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                          #1977
                          Some of these comments regarding Allen are a bit premature me thinks, the guy is a very good footballer and he's got time on his side. He will prove you all wrong.

                          Lucas was a bit wank to begin with wasn't he? I still remember Alan Green saying he was more Albanian than Brazilian!

                          He didn't turn out too bad.

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                            #1978
                            Can't be ****in ****ed readng the rest of this thread, so i will say this

                            If Rodgers had had a bit of faith in Henderson then we might not have needed to fickin waste MILLIONS on Joe very Allen

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                              #1979
                              Originally posted by Daniel 7 View Post
                              Can't be ****in ****ed readng the rest of this thread, so i will say this

                              If Rodgers had had a bit of faith in Henderson then we might not have needed to fickin waste MILLIONS on Joe very Allen

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                                #1980
                                Henderson was shocking last night but has played well recently to be fair, much prefer him to Allen. Still don't think he'll ever be anything other than a squaddie, that is if we have any ambition to get back to the top tier. As for Allen, IMO he has just been a really terrible buy. Lightweight and slow & panics when he is under pressure.

                                I haven't changed my opinion of Borini, IMO he has no composure and looks technically inept. Runs around a lot and is willing, but we need so much more than that. Allen and Borini need to show some improvement asap.

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