Jordan Henderson

[Norbs]

my head is spinnin

[paulc]

Exodus this summer

[Nicey]

Just a couple of seasons ago, he was being pushed out to make way for Clint Dempsey ......now he is a shoe in to become the next captain of Liverpool Football Club..... its a funny old game

[Leyton388]

Typical.

[McDermotX]

Another one for the cunt list.


Hmm......nearly down to the end of the page now.

[Leyton388]

Looking at it can you blame him? After last season we should have kicked on this season but he has seen us sell our best player, replace him with Balotelli, sign half the Southampton side, let our captain walk out the door and constantly be reminded by the manager that we cannot attract top players.

[RichC]

Story in that bastion of journalistic integrity the Daily Star - must be 100% true.

[McDermotX]

Looking at it can you blame him? After last season we should have kicked on this season but he has seen us sell our best player, replace him with Balotelli, sign half the Southampton side, let our captain walk out the door and constantly be reminded by the manager that we cannot attract top players.

I think players of Jordan's ilk need to look a bit closer at themselves, and recognize the fortunate situation they are in.
I do like him, and think he's a good player, but he's not top-top tier quality and never will be IMO - it's not like Real or Barca will be knocking on his door. That's not to say he cannot be a fixture for us for his entire career, and while not my first choice of character, he'll probably be captaining the side for the foreseeable future and figuring for England (although that shouldn't hold him back).
I think any delay is just posturing, and I don't think there's any danger of him not signing, but it'll probably be closer to 100k, which I would guess is about 2x what he's on. That's pretty good for a player of his level, which would be allowed to grow as he stays at the club and proves to be an important member.

Edit - actually checking out that supposed list of wages, Henderson is on 55k now. Even Skrtel, who has been at the club since 2008, is on 90k. Think a deal deal for Henderson around the same is pretty good.

[Paul12]

This is old news isn't it? Just newspapers looking to fuel the Rodgers v Sterling 'dispute' to sell papers.

[Lecter]

I think players of Jordan's ilk need to look a bit closer at themselves, and recognize the fortunate situation they are in.
I do like him, and think he's a good player, but he's not top-top tier quality and never will be IMO - it's not like Real or Barca will be knocking on his door. That's not to say he cannot be a fixture for us for his entire career, and while not my first choice of character, he'll probably be captaining the side for the foreseeable future and figuring for England (although that shouldn't hold him back).
I think any delay is just posturing, and I don't think there's any danger of him not signing, but it'll probably be closer to 100k, which I would guess is about 2x what he's on. That's pretty good for a player of his level, which would be allowed to grow as he stays at the club and proves to be an important member.

Edit - actually checking out that supposed list of wages, Henderson is on 55k now. Even Skrtel, who has been at the club since 2008, is on 90k. Think a deal deal for Henderson around the same is pretty good.

I think he will be gone in the summer as will Sterling

I am not that bothered about Sterling going we will get a shedload of cash for him but Henderson I think we should give him what he wants

He has only 12 months left on his contract this summer, we probably will be lucky to get what we paid for him (£13-16m) and the cost of a replacement will be much much higher

As for your post the realities of all football contracts is they are absurd and grossly over inflated, I have no real problems with players trying to maximise their value. There is no need for introspection from their behalf because we would all do the same in their position

[Nicey]

Give him what he wants in terms of money ... hes deserves it ... the captains armband ... not sure ...although his stats stack up .... but at ****ing RB ... Sweet Baby Jesus BDog wtf

[ChrisDR1968]

Give him what he wants in terms of money ... hes deserves it ... the captains armband ... not sure ...although his stats stack up .... but at ****ing RB ... Sweet Baby Jesus BDog wtf

Doing that is not as straight forward as it sounds (and we don't know what he thinks he's worth in wages each week either).

The club has a wage structure and caving in to players and giving them what they want will get us back into the Rafa situation where our wage bill was out of control for the last couple of seasons he was with us.

From what I've heard when FSG bought the club they were shocked at the playing staff's wage bill and set about bringing it under some semblance of control.

[McDermotX]

I think he will be gone in the summer as will Sterling

I am not that bothered about Sterling going we will get a shedload of cash for him but Henderson I think we should give him what he wants

He has only 12 months left on his contract this summer, we probably will be lucky to get what we paid for him (£13-16m) and the cost of a replacement will be much much higher

As for your post the realities of all football contracts is they are absurd and grossly over inflated, I have no real problems with players trying to maximise their value. There is no need for introspection from their behalf because we would all do the same in their position

I would be massively surprised if he left, given the position he's carved out for himself, but then football is a 'funny old game'.
He's a very good player, but he's not a ****ing great player and his end product stats are still not near the level we hope he'll find as his career progresses.
But he's a regular, odds on to be the next captain, featuring for England etc, and frankly, he's one of the hardest workers in the playing staff, but we need to be realistic as to his worth. I don't fancy him as a '120k a week' player (or whatever the rumours were a couple weeks back) at this stage of his career, and an amount under that and what we offer in lowball is probably right.

As for players maximizing their worth, that's fair enough, but even in football, a semblance of realism is to be expected, and right now he's a player playing for the 5th best team who are not CL regulars and are not overly challenging for the major honours. If he thinks he can earn more or the same as players at the big boys table, that's fair enough, he can chase the money elsewhere and we'll have our answer as to whether he thinks his future is with us.

2x his current wages for a non-CL side is pretty good going, even for a footballer with ridiculous notions.

[The_weatherman]

Doing that is not as straight forward as it sounds (and we don't know what he thinks he's worth in wages each week either).

The club has a wage structure and caving in to players and giving them what they want will get us back into the Rafa situation where our wage bill was out of control for the last couple of seasons he was with us.

From what I've heard when FSG bought the club they were shocked at the playing staff's wage bill and set about bringing it under some semblance of control.

Sick of hearing about our wage structure tbh. If we can't afford to pay our vice-captain and one of our most important players market rate I think we need to publicly adjust our targets and expectations. It's not like we are talking about Allen here, he is an important member of our first XI.

We are very clearly not a top four club longer but are we trying to get back in or will consolidate our position in the 5-7th?

[Exiled_red]

I think he will be gone in the summer as will Sterling

I am not that bothered about Sterling going we will get a shedload of cash for him but Henderson I think we should give him what he wants

He has only 12 months left on his contract this summer, we probably will be lucky to get what we paid for him (£13-16m) and the cost of a replacement will be much much higher

As for your post the realities of all football contracts is they are absurd and grossly over inflated, I have no real problems with players trying to maximise their value. There is no need for introspection from their behalf because we would all do the same in their position

Do yo think Henderson will go? I have kind of been assuming he would just sign after a little bit of negotiation. He's a good player but as people have said I doubt Real Madrid or Barcelona would come knocking, and if one of the top 4 came in for him I don't think he could be certain of a starting spot. IMO where he is at the moment the opportunity of regular football and the chance to captain LFC isn't something he should consider chucking away lightly.

For me the Sterling situation is different, he does have the potential to be a world class player if he continues his development and where he available I wouldn't be surprised if some top clubs came in for him, (how much game time he would get for them is another story). I would hope Jordan is sensible enough to realise what he has.