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    IMO Henderson isn't the issue.
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      Henderson is not the problem, the fact that he is captain may be a symptom of it. But if you take the armband off him who do you give it to? Everyone is much the same.

      You look back to Gerrard's time as captain, there were players such as Carragher, Hyypia, Mascherano, Kuyt, Hamann, Suarez and more, all leaders on the pitch and anyone of them could have done a good job as captain. Look around the current squad who do you have?
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        He's just not a good enough player. Whether he's 'the issue' or 'the problem' doesn't change anything.
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          Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
          In his defense, he was a half decent RM for Sunderland, we bought him and expected him to play centre midfield and then captain for Liverpool. Maybe the problem is us.
          yeah that's true.

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            Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
            He's just not a good enough player. Whether he's 'the issue' or 'the problem' doesn't change anything.
            It is a case of priorities though, with limited funds there's only so much that can be done. Klopp said during the summer for instance that he had bigger priorities than forwards but there's work that needs done there also.

            So we need:

            CB
            GK
            To replace Coutinho
            To replace Can
            To sign a striker

            Half a first team right there before we look to upgrading on Henderson and arguably Wijnaldum is the one needing to be upgraded.

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              Originally posted by labourRed View Post
              It is a case of priorities though, with limited funds there's only so much that can be done. Klopp said during the summer for instance that he had bigger priorities than forwards but there's work that needs done there also.

              So we need:

              CB
              GK
              To replace Coutinho
              To replace Can
              To sign a striker

              Half a first team right there before we look to upgrading on Henderson and arguably Wijnaldum is the one needing to be upgraded.
              Moneys too tight to mention.
              we can use solanke as a striker, are you listening klopp.
              We need two decent CBs, use gomez as the back up and rotation.
              Hopefully grujic will come through and replace can.
              lemar would be a great replacement for cout but his price may skyrocket.
              removing all the weak links makes us stronger

              too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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                Spend big on a centre half to play alongside Matip and a top, top keeper.

                Our problems are in defence, we don't struggle to score, we struggle with conceding

                Keita looks to be replacing Can, but if he stays then I'd like to see him as a defensive mid, he himself has said that's his preferred position

                Can/A.N Other defensively minded player, Keita and Coutinho looks balanced to me

                Henderson and Gini to fight for their places
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                  Originally posted by Fierce View Post
                  Spend big on a centre half to play alongside Matip and a top, top keeper.

                  Our problems are in defence, we don't struggle to score, we struggle with conceding

                  Keita looks to be replacing Can, but if he stays then I'd like to see him as a defensive mid, he himself has said that's his preferred position

                  Can/A.N Other defensively minded player, Keita and Coutinho looks balanced to me

                  Henderson and Gini to fight for their places

                  I think that sums up the current situation very well.

                  It’s got to be new CB and keeper. I know we could do with strengthening a few other positions but those two are now critical

                  Also, I tried to find A.N. Other’s YouTube compilation but couldn’t find it

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                    Originally posted by Fierce View Post
                    Spend big on a centre half to play alongside Matip and a top, top keeper.

                    Our problems are in defence, we don't struggle to score, we struggle with conceding

                    Keita looks to be replacing Can, but if he stays then I'd like to see him as a defensive mid, he himself has said that's his preferred position

                    Can/A.N Other defensively minded player, Keita and Coutinho looks balanced to me

                    Henderson and Gini to fight for their places
                    Actually, I think we are also struggling to score now, but we have to fix the defence first before we think about improving the attack.
                    * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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                        That's inspired me to deal with my dad's cancer. Just got to wait now and hope he gets it.
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                          Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                          That's inspired me to deal with my dad's cancer. Just got to wait now and hope he gets it.
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                            Originally posted by Pablo View Post
                            That's dark Kenneth, even for you!
                            Lol... makes us bad people if we laughed at that.
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                              Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
                              That's inspired me to deal with my dad's cancer. Just got to wait now and hope he gets it.
                              Modifying post.

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