Jordan Henderson

[S-RED]

That's inspired me to deal with my dad's cancer. Just got to wait now and hope he gets it.

Kin'ell i feel guilty for laughing at that.... dirty & ashamed even

[wongers]

That's inspired me to deal with my dad's cancer. Just got to wait now and hope he gets it.

[Liverpool]

the groans in the ground tonight for him was pretty grim, every misplaced pass, turning the wrong way/wrong decision. Very loud, doesnt normally affect him, but a few times he looked to start a dangerous attack, and played the simple pass instead to stop the groans if it went wrong.

[Shaggy]

the groans in the ground tonight for him was pretty grim, every misplaced pass, turning the wrong way/wrong decision. Very loud, doesnt normally affect him, but a few times he looked to start a dangerous attack, and played the simple pass instead to stop the groans if it went wrong.

It couldn't be more obvious and it's painful. It's a two way street, as always - the players, team, need to give the fans something but the fans need to give the players something too and all the ****ing moaning doesn't do anyone any good. You can see in Henderson's post match interviews lately - he looks clinically depressed ffs. Having a tough time.

[Robbie-9-Fowler]

the groans in the ground tonight for him was pretty grim, every misplaced pass, turning the wrong way/wrong decision. Very loud, doesnt normally affect him, but a few times he looked to start a dangerous attack, and played the simple pass instead to stop the groans if it went wrong.

He was passing sideways and turning the wrong way a while before the groans started but it isn't enjoyable to be apart of is it? He just isn't of the calibre required I'm afraid, he's a good hard working pro but we need more quality in there IMO.

To me, his worst crime is getting the ball and giving immediately back to the player he asked for it from. Meaning they're in the same position but being closed down, it invited pressure and he does it 20 time a game. Even to Mignolet! It's completely needless and the cynic in me thinks it to look like he's taking responsibility demanding the ball...

That period in the 1st half that lead to Chelsea pressure was down to him and Milner going right off the boil, sloppy passes, being walking past in midfield and failing to put their foot on the ball.

[Liverpool]

It couldn't be more obvious and it's painful. It's a two way street, as always - the players, team, need to give the fans something but the fans need to give the players something too and all the ****ing moaning doesn't do anyone any good. You can see in Henderson's post match interviews lately - he looks clinically depressed ffs. Having a tough time.

i've no problem with natural groans, for something ridiculously **** or something being frustratingly close to brillant go a miss. But reserving them for an individual is bang out of order, Coutinho can make loads of ****s ups and no noise, yet Henderson does the slightest thing and there's an outpour.

Its obvious hes very sensitive to peoples opinions of him, and wants to loved and would flourish from it, but he gets abuse, helps no one.

I think the weight of captaincy and this position is taking its toll on him, and being the successor to Gerrard has never helped with its comparisons.

[Tatterdemalion]

i've no problem with natural groans, for something ridiculously **** or something being frustratingly close to brillant go a miss. But reserving them for an individual is bang out of order, Coutinho can make loads of ****s ups and no noise, yet Henderson does the slightest thing and there's an outpour.

Its obvious hes very sensitive to peoples opinions of him, and wants to loved and would flourish from it, but he gets abuse, helps no one.

I think the weight of captaincy and this position is taking its toll on him, and being the successor to Gerrard has never helped with its comparisons.

None of that really sounds like captain material though does it?

[Liverpool]

None of that really sounds like captain material though does it?

what is a captain though?

Gerrard had Carragher to back him and do a lot of his dirty work.

Gerrard needed to feel the love from managers, although the cold shoulder motivated him from Rafa.

We had a lot of leaders around then, Rodgers went about removing personalities from the club to strengthen his own position, and we haven't replenished with them since, and we lack game intelligence.

Its frustrating as ****, but getting on the lads back is the not answer

[Shaggy]

i've no problem with natural groans, for something ridiculously **** or something being frustratingly close to brillant go a miss. But reserving them for an individual is bang out of order, Coutinho can make loads of ****s ups and no noise, yet Henderson does the slightest thing and there's an outpour.

Its obvious hes very sensitive to peoples opinions of him, and wants to loved and would flourish from it, but he gets abuse, helps no one.

I think the weight of captaincy and this position is taking its toll on him, and being the successor to Gerrard has never helped with its comparisons.

what is a captain though?

Gerrard had Carragher to back him and do a lot of his dirty work.

Gerrard needed to feel the love from managers, although the cold shoulder motivated him from Rafa.

We had a lot of leaders around then, Rodgers went about removing personalities from the club to strengthen his own position, and we haven't replenished with them since, and we lack game intelligence.

Its frustrating as ****, but getting on the lads back is the not answer

[Liverpool]

He was passing sideways and turning the wrong way a while before the groans started but it isn't enjoyable to be apart of is it? He just isn't of the calibre required I'm afraid, he's a good hard working pro but we need more quality in there IMO.

To me, his worst crime is getting the ball and giving immediately back to the player he asked for it from. Meaning they're in the same position but being closed down, it invited pressure and he does it 20 time a game. Even to Mignolet! It's completely needless and the cynic in me thinks it to look like he's taking responsibility demanding the ball...

That period in the 1st half that lead to Chelsea pressure was down to him and Milner going right off the boil, sloppy passes, being walking past in midfield and failing to put their foot on the ball.

I think freeing him this deep position would help, his most effective further forward, closing down and getting decent balls in from 30/40 yards, he's too deep and i've never rated his tackling/defensive ability

[Shaggy]

Yep. It's mad how he can't win balls deep (balls deep, lol) yet get him pressing in the attacking third and he wins loads of balls and can drive forward. Much better in that role.

[Slinky Skills]

He was passing sideways and turning the wrong way a while before the groans started but it isn't enjoyable to be apart of is it? He just isn't of the calibre required I'm afraid, he's a good hard working pro but we need more quality in there IMO.

To me, his worst crime is getting the ball and giving immediately back to the player he asked for it from. Meaning they're in the same position but being closed down, it invited pressure and he does it 20 time a game. Even to Mignolet! It's completely needless and the cynic in me thinks it to look like he's taking responsibility demanding the ball...

That period in the 1st half that lead to Chelsea pressure was down to him and Milner going right off the boil, sloppy passes, being walking past in midfield and failing to put their foot on the ball.

Spot on mate, that's exactly what he does. You've described it well there.

[Slinky Skills]

Agree he'd be better served further up the field. Tbh he'll probably lose his position next year to Keita and will be ****ed off I imagine.

[Liverpool]

Yep. It's mad how he can't win balls deep (balls deep, lol) yet get him pressing in the attacking third and he wins loads of balls and can drive forward. Much better in that role.

easier to chase down lost causes and catching defenders off guard, than dealing with attacking mids/strikers. Doesn't have to worry about his position and can gallivant around freely, much more of craft to intercept from deep.

[Liverpool]

Agree he'd be better served further up the field. Tbh he'll probably lose his position next year to Keita and will be ****ed off I imagine.

Keita will be playing further forward and wont be holding.

I've gone full CraigH in this thread.