Was he subbed at half time for his performance or was he being rested for the final on Saturday ??
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Henderson will start, that's why he was subbed at half time.Originally posted by danperkins View PostStarted 30 odd games for us and anonymous in about 98% of them, i'd love to think he was subbed because he's crap, but unfortunately to Kenny's and LFC detriment all season long, i think Henderson like Downing will start
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Hendo and Shelvey will never ever make it at Liverpool. IMO neither are anywhere near looking like they can reach the standards this club must demand if we ever want to win the title again. However, if all we want is to keep fighting for a top 8 finish every season they have a future here, along with Adam, Carroll and Downing."Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley
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The owners are never going to spend the money and pay the kind of wages City are paying. Look at Arsenal, they've been struggling since adopting a policy of not spending huge sums.Originally posted by Tee View PostHendo and Shelvey will never ever make it at Liverpool. IMO neither are anywhere near looking like they can reach the standards this club must demand if we ever want to win the title again. However, if all we want is to keep fighting for a top 8 finish every season they have a future here, along with Adam, Carroll and Downing.Are we winning?
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Originally posted by Tee View PostHendo and Shelvey will never ever make it at Liverpool. IMO neither are anywhere near looking like they can reach the standards this club must demand if we ever want to win the title again. However, if all we want is to keep fighting for a top 8 finish every season they have a future here, along with Adam, Carroll and Downing.
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I don't see many positives at the moment, and I know few people will agree with this but I genuinely think Henderson will come good.
You can see he has good touch and awareness and always tries to inject pace and directness into his play, he can pick a pass, and I'd imagine in another season he can get a few goals. He has joined the club at a bad time, been played more than he should have in his first season and suffered. But there is some genuine potential in his play (he is only 21 FFS) I see him the same way Lucas was a few years ago, Hendersons technique and attitude are sound (as was Lucas) but he needs more coaching to fulfill his potential and take his game on another level. Compare Henderson to say Downing, who at 27 should be nearing his peak, but doesn't have the bottle to make it a bigger club. He should be a senior player, one a young guy like Henderson can look to when the chips are down. But Downing shows nothing. He doesn't inspire, he just does nothing.Modifying post.
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I agree Hendo has been played much more than he should, for me he has some good attributes but jesus christ the guy goes AWOL in nearly every game. RM or CM doesn't seem to matter, he lacks any sort of aggression and for me just runs around aimlessly.
Love for him to good like Lucas did, but one thing Lucas never lacked was aggression and balls. Downing is just pathetic
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Originally posted by Tee View PostHendo and Shelvey will never ever make it at Liverpool. IMO neither are anywhere near looking like they can reach the standards this club must demand if we ever want to win the title again. However, if all we want is to keep fighting for a top 8 finish every season they have a future here, along with Adam, Carroll and Downing.Originally posted by danperkins View PostI agree Hendo has been played much more than he should, for me he has some good attributes but jesus christ the guy goes AWOL in nearly every game. RM or CM doesn't seem to matter, he lacks any sort of aggression and for me just runs around aimlessly.
Love for him to good like Lucas did, but one thing Lucas never lacked was aggression and balls. Downing is just patheticTherein lies the problem, he’ll never come good as long as fans keep calling him that!Originally posted by Buzzo View PostI'd give Hendo a season or 2. Downing can **** off now.If we are all only happy when we are really winning in the end, when your race finishes, what life would that be?
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I'm not sure, United for instance have some right ****e in their squad and look were they areOriginally posted by Tee View PostHendo and Shelvey will never ever make it at Liverpool. IMO neither are anywhere near looking like they can reach the standards this club must demand if we ever want to win the title again. However, if all we want is to keep fighting for a top 8 finish every season they have a future here, along with Adam, Carroll and Downing.
The crucial thing is they do have a greater number of quality players than we have in the right areas and having those players can help you afford to have the likes of Carroll, Shelvey, Adam & HendersonBob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."
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Henderson should be getting less game time next year as long as we bring in a creative central midfielder alongside Lucas (or train him into that type of player, like at Gremio). Shelvey needs to be loaned out, preferably to a Premier League team so he can learn about various game situations and how to respond to them.
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I totally agree with you, but I meant having those players in our first team will never take us to the promised land.Originally posted by Lecter View PostI'm not sure, United for instance have some right ****e in their squad and look were they are
The crucial thing is they do have a greater number of quality players than we have in the right areas and having those players can help you afford to have the likes of Carroll, Shelvey, Adam & Henderson
The title has to become our obsession, it simply has to, otherwise we will never win it IMO."Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley
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