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    Originally posted by Sarb View Post
    Seen as though we have one of the best Academy's in Europe, players moving to performance related contracts I think it's going to help us more than hinder us.
    I hope so, but we should have left our options open. Common sense IMO.
    "Its not about the long ball or the short ball, its about the right ball." Bob Paisley

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      Originally posted by Tee View Post
      I hope so, but we should have left our options open. Common sense IMO.
      Not sure. Without FFP we are on a loser. No way we can compete with Chelsea or Man City finances. In all honesty, I think clubs may find ways round it.

      But reigning in the rich clubs will only help us not hinder us I think

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        Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
        If we don't get back amongst the top clubs soon enough we won't need to increase the Anfield capacity.

        Looking at the increase Chelsea made in fan base since they became winners is scary.

        I mean, if you got 10 kids not from Liverpool who's fathers were'nt pushing them towards supporting a certain Prem club, who do people think they'd choose?
        Well, as you have allluded, it's circular. If we get back into the CL, then challenge for the league, there will be no problems selling out 60,000 seats every week. Everyone wants to be part of that.

        If we drift further down the table, the opposite is obviously true.

        But, the larger capacity will obviously help us to improve the squad further.

        We just need to break the cycle. Easy peasy, huh?
        Oh I don't know.

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          Originally posted by Sarb View Post
          Seen as though we have one of the best Academy's in Europe, players moving to performance related contracts I think it's going to help us more than hinder us.

          I'm surprised Lerner voted against the salary cap. It's the norm in American sport.
          Unless we get results on a consistant basis over the next two seasons nothing matters.

          Do that, get back to where a club like this needs to be, and we'll be fine whatever the regulations imo, fail to do it, and it will really set the club back.

          Such an important time.

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            Originally posted by Tee View Post
            And we have cut our noses off to spite our face by signing that FFP agreement.
            OK, you know I have the completely opposite point of view. We need FFP badly imo in order for us to compete the best we can using the resources at our disposal.

            Whereas you're still craving the sugar daddy.

            So my question is, after 10 years of looking, why hasn't sugar daddy come to the rescue? If he's out there, why is he not here. Buying LFC from S&G was the perfect opportunity to get a world class club at a knockdown price. It didn't happen. And it looks like it was never likely to happen either. Other than a couple of chancers, NESV were the only serious bidders. And even they weren't actively in soccer interested until Werner, as a fan, mentioned it to Henry.
            Oh I don't know.

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              Originally posted by dom9 View Post
              Well, as you have allluded, it's circular. If we get back into the CL, then challenge for the league, there will be no problems selling out 60,000 seats every week. Everyone wants to be part of that.

              If we drift further down the table, the opposite is obviously true.

              But, the larger capacity will obviously help us to improve the squad further.

              We just need to break the cycle. Easy peasy, huh?
              Tbh, it feels like it should have been easier than it has been.

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                Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                Unless we get results on a consistant basis over the next two seasons nothing matters.

                Do that, get back to where a club like this needs to be, and we'll be fine whatever the regulations imo, fail to do it, and it will really set the club back.

                Such an important time.


                It's critical.
                Oh I don't know.

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                  Originally posted by Shaggy View Post
                  Swansea on general sale. Backlash or just a sign of the times? Probably the latter.

                  http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...ea-tickets-now
                  Aren't these just the season ticket returns that go on sale the week before a game? I'd imagine there will be more season ticket holders than usual missing Sunday due to the fairly late rearrangement (3 of our crowd didn't even know about it on Monday night).

                  [edit - maybe not from the statement on the website]

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                    Originally posted by dom9 View Post


                    It's critical.
                    When it was just UTD it was'nt so important, but too many clubs are now forging ahead of us, if we are out of the Champs league and top 4 for another 2/3 seasons, the effects long term could be devastating.

                    This thought, imo is partly what drives those that would rather of had a sugar daddy type owner, the major flaw is of course that no sugar daddy wanted/wants lfc.

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                      werner wasn't the fan. it was somebody the next rung down. not just an investor but a red sox guy.
                      dave of mutilation

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                        Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                        Unless we get results on a consistant basis over the next two seasons nothing matters.

                        Do that, get back to where a club like this needs to be, and we'll be fine whatever the regulations imo, fail to do it, and it will really set the club back.

                        Such an important time.
                        Originally posted by dom9 View Post


                        It's critical.
                        It really is this time, isn't it. Slip now and we're ****ed as regards CL and attracting any sort of decent players and revenue. Success in the next 2 years will be 4th or higher an then achieving that consistently. We're miles away from the league title - after all, Arsenal, Spurs and even Everton are better than us and there isn't a hope in hell of any of them winning the league in the next few years. No pressure Rodgers
                        Felching ≠ Gerbilling

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                          Originally posted by Vermilion View Post
                          When it was just UTD it was'nt so important, but too many clubs are now forging ahead of us, if we are out of the Champs league and top 4 for another 2/3 seasons, the effects long term could be devastating.

                          This thought, imo is partly what drives those that would rather of had a sugar daddy type owner, the major flaw is of course that no sugar daddy wanted/wants lfc.


                          I understand that. And it's true. There have been plenty of opportunities for sugar daddys to come and rescue us. Dare I say it, if one was to make FSG an offer now, would they refuse if they got a reasonable return on their investment?

                          I'm still dead against it though. The club won everything that Europe had to offer under its own steam and resources. It didn't need outside help. And I believe that once the playing field has been levelled through FFP, we will be able to do that again.

                          And I have always has the utmost disdain for those clubs that have bought their success via a benefactor. Apart from maybe Blackburn. Watching them pip united to the title was ****ing funny. Actually, I still held them in an extremely low regard.

                          To wish the same for would simply be hypocritical in the extreme.

                          Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Post
                          werner wasn't the fan. it was somebody the next rung down. not just an investor but a red sox guy.
                          Ah right.
                          Last edited by dom9; 14-02-13, 12:21 PM.
                          Oh I don't know.

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                            The FFP is a good thing long-term but, with many of the teams above us, they've already done their spending to get better squads than us and now want to be responsible and prevent anyone from catching them.

                            This is why our youth plan HAS to work because we're tying our own purse strings so we need this to happen.
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                              Originally posted by dom9 View Post


                              I understand that. And it's true. There have been plenty of opportunities for sugar daddys to come and rescue us. Dare I say it, if one was to make FSG on offer now, would they refuse if they got a reasonable return on their investment?
                              They would definitely sell for the right price IMO. They'd have to be offered a tidy profit though I'd have thought, they won't sell easy. They are businessmen at the end of the day aren't they?

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                                And I would feel more than a little embarrassed if we required a benefactor to fund us going forward. It might even be the final straw with football for me. (Hooray! I hear you say.)
                                Oh I don't know.

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