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Not sure. Without FFP we are on a loser. No way we can compete with Chelsea or Man City finances. In all honesty, I think clubs may find ways round it.Originally posted by Tee View PostI hope so, but we should have left our options open. Common sense IMO.
But reigning in the rich clubs will only help us not hinder us I think
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Well, as you have allluded, it's circular. If we get back into the CL, then challenge for the league, there will be no problems selling out 60,000 seats every week. Everyone wants to be part of that.Originally posted by Vermilion View PostIf we don't get back amongst the top clubs soon enough we won't need to increase the Anfield capacity.
Looking at the increase Chelsea made in fan base since they became winners is scary.
I mean, if you got 10 kids not from Liverpool who's fathers were'nt pushing them towards supporting a certain Prem club, who do people think they'd choose?
If we drift further down the table, the opposite is obviously true.
But, the larger capacity will obviously help us to improve the squad further.
We just need to break the cycle. Easy peasy, huh?Oh I don't know.
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Unless we get results on a consistant basis over the next two seasons nothing matters.Originally posted by Sarb View PostSeen as though we have one of the best Academy's in Europe, players moving to performance related contracts I think it's going to help us more than hinder us.
I'm surprised Lerner voted against the salary cap. It's the norm in American sport.
Do that, get back to where a club like this needs to be, and we'll be fine whatever the regulations imo, fail to do it, and it will really set the club back.
Such an important time.
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OK, you know I have the completely opposite point of view. We need FFP badly imo in order for us to compete the best we can using the resources at our disposal.Originally posted by Tee View Post
And we have cut our noses off to spite our face by signing that FFP agreement.
Whereas you're still craving the sugar daddy.
So my question is, after 10 years of looking, why hasn't sugar daddy come to the rescue? If he's out there, why is he not here. Buying LFC from S&G was the perfect opportunity to get a world class club at a knockdown price. It didn't happen. And it looks like it was never likely to happen either. Other than a couple of chancers, NESV were the only serious bidders. And even they weren't actively in soccer interested until Werner, as a fan, mentioned it to Henry.Oh I don't know.
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Tbh, it feels like it should have been easier than it has been.Originally posted by dom9 View PostWell, as you have allluded, it's circular. If we get back into the CL, then challenge for the league, there will be no problems selling out 60,000 seats every week. Everyone wants to be part of that.
If we drift further down the table, the opposite is obviously true.
But, the larger capacity will obviously help us to improve the squad further.
We just need to break the cycle. Easy peasy, huh?
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Originally posted by Vermilion View PostUnless we get results on a consistant basis over the next two seasons nothing matters.
Do that, get back to where a club like this needs to be, and we'll be fine whatever the regulations imo, fail to do it, and it will really set the club back.
Such an important time.
It's critical.Oh I don't know.
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Aren't these just the season ticket returns that go on sale the week before a game? I'd imagine there will be more season ticket holders than usual missing Sunday due to the fairly late rearrangement (3 of our crowd didn't even know about it on Monday night).Originally posted by Shaggy View PostSwansea on general sale. Backlash or just a sign of the times? Probably the latter.
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/late...ea-tickets-now
[edit - maybe not from the statement on the website]
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When it was just UTD it was'nt so important, but too many clubs are now forging ahead of us, if we are out of the Champs league and top 4 for another 2/3 seasons, the effects long term could be devastating.Originally posted by dom9 View Post
It's critical.
This thought, imo is partly what drives those that would rather of had a sugar daddy type owner, the major flaw is of course that no sugar daddy wanted/wants lfc.
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Originally posted by Vermilion View PostUnless we get results on a consistant basis over the next two seasons nothing matters.
Do that, get back to where a club like this needs to be, and we'll be fine whatever the regulations imo, fail to do it, and it will really set the club back.
Such an important time.It really is this time, isn't it. Slip now and we're ****ed as regards CL and attracting any sort of decent players and revenue. Success in the next 2 years will be 4th or higher an then achieving that consistently. We're miles away from the league title - after all, Arsenal, Spurs and even Everton are better than us and there isn't a hope in hell of any of them winning the league in the next few years. No pressure RodgersOriginally posted by dom9 View Post
It's critical.
Felching ≠ Gerbilling
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Originally posted by Vermilion View PostWhen it was just UTD it was'nt so important, but too many clubs are now forging ahead of us, if we are out of the Champs league and top 4 for another 2/3 seasons, the effects long term could be devastating.
This thought, imo is partly what drives those that would rather of had a sugar daddy type owner, the major flaw is of course that no sugar daddy wanted/wants lfc.
I understand that. And it's true. There have been plenty of opportunities for sugar daddys to come and rescue us. Dare I say it, if one was to make FSG an offer now, would they refuse if they got a reasonable return on their investment?
I'm still dead against it though. The club won everything that Europe had to offer under its own steam and resources. It didn't need outside help. And I believe that once the playing field has been levelled through FFP, we will be able to do that again.
And I have always has the utmost disdain for those clubs that have bought their success via a benefactor. Apart from maybe Blackburn. Watching them pip united to the title was ****ing funny. Actually, I still held them in an extremely low regard.
To wish the same for would simply be hypocritical in the extreme.
Ah right.Originally posted by little dave hedgehog View Postwerner wasn't the fan. it was somebody the next rung down. not just an investor but a red sox guy.
Last edited by dom9; 14-02-13, 12:21 PM.Oh I don't know.
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The FFP is a good thing long-term but, with many of the teams above us, they've already done their spending to get better squads than us and now want to be responsible and prevent anyone from catching them.
This is why our youth plan HAS to work because we're tying our own purse strings so we need this to happen.
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They would definitely sell for the right price IMO. They'd have to be offered a tidy profit though I'd have thought, they won't sell easy. They are businessmen at the end of the day aren't they?Originally posted by dom9 View Post
I understand that. And it's true. There have been plenty of opportunities for sugar daddys to come and rescue us. Dare I say it, if one was to make FSG on offer now, would they refuse if they got a reasonable return on their investment?
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