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    Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
    It isn't. We've got a lot of wide/in the hole players but only one striker and one defensive midfielder, both with a record of long term injuries. And Gerrard has fallen off a cliff, and won't he here by the summer. We have such a patchy squad and it's that that has cost us. We were in a better position a year ago.
    It's very unbalanced, mainly due to poor recruitment and a lack of strategy. One DM and only one usable striker and not a single CB partnership and to top it off we lack fullbacks as well. After Brendan's first season I had a sense he knew what he was doing and that he has a plan. But now I'm not so sure, I think he'll start from scratch next season, maybe already started, by going back to what he knows - the Swansea style.

    Like someone said, by Rafa's third season you could see a team and identity forming clearly, if Rodgers constantly needs to start again every season then he's not our man IMO. He's also quick to come out with excuses but also equally as quick to bask in the glory which grinds me a bit.

    Last summer we were in a prime position to build on and we failed, like usually when we've come close.
    * The above is posted in my opinion. Feel free to disagree.

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      Originally posted by Kenneth View Post
      It isn't. We've got a lot of wide/in the hole players but only one striker and one defensive midfielder, both with a record of long term injuries. And Gerrard has fallen off a cliff, and won't he here by the summer. We have such a patchy squad and it's that that has cost us. We were in a better position a year ago.

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        i wonder who scouts the scouts, who assesses their worth...

        removing all the weak links makes us stronger

        too many gutless players, no beef or desire. pussies everywhere... sack them all.

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          Originally posted by DannyMan2006 View Post
          But does it change based on the players recruited not working out?

          He may want to play 433, 4231 or 41212, but if you don't have the players that work in that system you can be stubborn and try and grind it out, or you can change it up. I think Rodgers did both this season. Trying to slug through with Mario & Rickie early doors, then scrapping it and changing up after Basel.
          Hes switched and swapped right through his tenure

          started with Swansea system, signed Sturridge and then went 2 up top

          Next season back to the Swansea system, maybe that was something to do with Suarez being out with his ban. Then he goes with the diamond and we take off

          This season he started with the Swansea system again, and reverted to the 3-4-3

          I think recruitment this season reflected a desire to play the Swansea system

          IMO this is what he will go for again this summer
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            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
            Hes switched and swapped right through his tenure

            started with Swansea system, signed Sturridge and then went 2 up top

            Next season back to the Swansea system, maybe that was something to do with Suarez being out with his ban. Then he goes with the diamond and we take off

            This season he started with the Swansea system again, and reverted to the 3-4-3

            I think recruitment this season reflected a desire to play the Swansea system

            IMO this is what he will go for again this summer
            Which is funny because one of the main criticisms of Rodgers on here during our bad run in the first half of the season, was that he kept sticking with a system that wasn't working. Now I'm repeatedly reading the opposite.

            I agree with you though Lecter, we'll go back to 4-3-3 next season... but our tactical flexibility can only be a positive long term.
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              Originally posted by chadrtc View Post
              Which is funny because one of the main criticisms of Rodgers on here during our bad run in the first half of the season, was that he kept sticking with a system that wasn't working. Now I'm repeatedly reading the opposite.

              I agree with you though Lecter, we'll go back to 4-3-3 next season... but our tactical flexibility can only be a positive long term.
              My criticism early on in the season was that he switched back to the Swansea system again (IMO its more of a 4-3-2-1 system)

              I'd have preferred he kept the diamond system he played last year

              Going forward I personally dont think his Swansea system works and the thought that he will invariably switch back to the system in the summer is probably one of the reasons why I wouldnt be too bothered if he left in the summer

              Rodgers always seems to find something that works second half of the season so the tactical flexibility is a positive

              The flipside to that is despite him finding solutions that work he always reverts back to a system that doesnt
              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                My criticism early on in the season was that he switched back to the Swansea system again (IMO its more of a 4-3-2-1 system)

                I'd have preferred he kept the diamond system he played last year

                Going forward I personally dont think his Swansea system works and the thought that he will invariably switch back to the system in the summer is probably one of the reasons why I wouldnt be too bothered if he left in the summer

                Rodgers always seems to find something that works second half of the season so the tactical flexibility is a positive

                The flipside to that is despite him finding solutions that work he always reverts back to a system that doesn't
                True. That and there'll always be two halves of a season unfortunately.
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                  Even when he had the system working, we were letting in a crazy amount of goals. Being flexible is one thing, but having a vision and goals for the 'group' to work towards is another.
                  Modifying post.

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                    Originally posted by ronanm View Post
                    True. That and there'll always be two halves of a season unfortunately.
                    Sometimes there will be three thirds
                    Modifying post.

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                      Originally posted by Buzzo View Post
                      Even when he had the system working, we were letting in a crazy amount of goals. Being flexible is one thing, but having a vision and goals for the 'group' to work towards is another.
                      I dont think hes ever had his Swansea system working

                      Hes had other systems that work but not the Swansea one

                      The Swansea system is his pass, pass, pass system that is slow in build up and just seems to go nowhere. Maybe he has been unlucky with injuries etc.. but to me that system doesnt work
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                        Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                        I dont think hes ever had his Swansea system working

                        Hes had other systems that work but not the Swansea one

                        The Swansea system is his pass, pass, pass system that is slow in build up and just seems to go nowhere. Maybe he has been unlucky with injuries etc.. but to me that system doesnt work
                        Swansea's system worked for Swansea as he had a good run with uninjured players. If they had Bony earlier (instead of Danny Graham) that system would have scored a lot more goals.

                        He's adamant he wants this system to work, he obvioulsy believes in it. But we need players that can play it and remain injury free. That's something we don't have so Rodger's is always putting on his B track midway through seasons.
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                          Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                          Swansea's system worked for Swansea as he had a good run with uninjured players. If they had Bony earlier (instead of Danny Graham) that system would have scored a lot more goals.

                          He's adamant he wants this system to work, he obvioulsy believes in it. But we need players that can play it and remain injury free. That's something we don't have so Rodger's is always putting on his B track midway through seasons.
                          What Swansea would class as success and what LFC class as success are two different things

                          Personally I think its a system that gets you mid-table which is why it "worked" for Swansea and why we dont see it as having worked here
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                            Originally posted by Lecter View Post
                            What Swansea would class as success and what LFC class as success are two different things

                            Personally I think its a system that gets you mid-table which is why it "worked" for Swansea and why we dont see it as having worked here
                            I'd argue Swansea had midtable players which is why they were midtable. And we have midtable players which is why we are midtable.

                            Haven't seen enough of the system without midtable players to be able to judge the system yet.
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                              Originally posted by BigChief View Post

                              He's adamant he wants this system to work, he obvioulsy believes in it. But we need players that can play it and remain injury free. That's something we don't have so Rodger's is always putting on his B track midway through seasons.
                              This season is probably the only one were he swapped because of sustained injury problems so I dont put the other changes that happened the previous two seasons down to injury problems

                              He swapped previous seasons because the Swansea system wasnt getting good enough results for LFC, he probably swapped this season for a combination of injuries and the system again not working

                              Him being adamant and believing in the system doesnt mean its the right thing to do
                              Bob Paisley - "This club has been my life. I'd go out and sweep the street and be proud to do it for Liverpool if they asked me to."

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                                Originally posted by BigChief View Post
                                I'd argue Swansea had midtable players which is why they were midtable. And we have midtable players which is why we are midtable.

                                Haven't seen enough of the system without midtable players to be able to judge the system yet.
                                And yet when he has changed the system, those midtable players have got significantly better results, not just once 3 times!!!

                                Each time he has made the change its been a different system, and all 3 of those different systems have been proven to be more successful than the Swansea system

                                That should tell us and him enough
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