Brendan Rodgers

[Norbs]

I love it when we get sweary, angry new posters.

I bet you don't really

[ntto]

I guess it depends how the committee works maybe Rodgers has to sanction a signing maybe not. Suppose he does it's not difficult to imagine the following scenario:

Rodgers believes we need a striker, comes to the committee with some options as do other committee members. They go through the list and the summer progresses and players move elsewhere, are too expensive or unfit. By the end you are left with one player on the list: Mario Balotelli, someone the committee recomended but that Rodgers doesn't particularly want. The committee say it's Balotelli or no-one. If you are Rodgers the chances are, knowing that you need a striker, you sanction the move because you assume that not having a striker will be more of a problem than having someone who you don't particularly want but could hopefully do a job.

Now I'm not saying that is what happened, but IMO there are issues with committees, I am not saying Rodgers would do better or worse on his own, but the structure that we used last year didn't yield good results.

not sure whether that's an ultimatum or whether that's just a reflection of the market

but difference either way

[gratziani]

I went from happy last year with Luis playing up front to angry every game when we had Borini , Lambert or Mario up top , what a waste of a position from the club ,

Buying Origi for next year , when we all needed someone for this season , now breathes and counts to ten

[Exiled_red]

if that is the case , then the people on the committee are complete ****ing idiots , we lose Suarez one of the best strikers on the planet and they try and replace with Remy then Balotelli ,

Like I say I don't know what the deal is, but based on Rodgers comments in the summer about not wanting Balotelli, the transfers being decided by committee and the outcome, it doesn't seem too much of a leap to get to something like that.

My prefered strategy would have been to have used the money for Balotelli and Lallana or Markovic and go after one big player with ~£40m to spend, perhaps this is what we were trying to do when we went after Sanchez but as you say it seems a big step down from Sanchez to Remy and Balotelli. Who knows what happened with the committee, but every time I think about the transfer committee this comes to mind:

[gratziani]

[QUOTE=Exiled_red;3093907]Like I say I don't know what the deal is, but based on Rodgers comments in the summer about not wanting Balotelli, the transfers being decided by committee and the outcome, it doesn't seem too much of a leap to get to something like that.

My prefered strategy would have been to have used the money for Balotelli and Lallana or Markovic and go after one big player with ~£40m to spend, perhaps this is what we were trying to do when we went after Sanchez but as you say it seems a big step down from Sanchez to Remy and Balotelli. Who knows what happened with the committee, but every time I think about the transfer committee this comes to mind:

[dom9]

We can't all be too cool for skool Dom...

Very true.

I bet you don't really

A bit of spice in the forums is a good thing.

It quickly gets boring reading the same things from the same people over again.

We need more people to chip in, not fewer.

[frank the tank]

the club are scabby when it comes to wages..... i think that is the issue.

Consider the players Brendan has signed and had most success with - I would say it has been Sturridge and Coutinho. They are young, hungry players that will feel that they have been poorly treated by other "big" clubs where they have been discarded as squad players or never got a fair crack at playing for the first teams. They had something to prove.

For me, Welbeck and Bertrand fitted that profile exactly and Brendan could have made both players into stars. Welbeck might have taken convincing as he is a Manc (fergie would never have sold him to us but LVG might have been so egotistical that he might have) but if Brendan got a chance to sell LFC to him then you never know. Maybe the prospect of forming a 3-man attack with Sturridge and Sterling would have been tempting as well as it could have been the england attack.

Put it this way, we go back in time and sign Welbeck and Bertrand instead of Moreno and Balotelli and i think we would have been in the top 4 by now.

For me that is one of the profiles of player that LFC are looking at.....

[BigChief]

Brilliant coach but wouldn't trust him to do the weekly shop.

In a nutshell.

I reckon Rodgers got more leeway over the 'committee' last summer to get the players he wanted because he did so well in the league. Big mistake, he badly wanted Lallana and Lovren.

Next season he badly wants Ashley Williams. Thankfully that leeway will now be yanked back hard.

For all his protestations Rodgers is the ideal manager to work with a DoF. He could become a truly world class manager as he wouldn't continue undoing all his great work by his own purchasing deficiencies.

[The Birdman]

What side's recruitment does work in the new players first season?
Have Shaw, Rojo, Di Maria, Falcao been success for Utd?
Mangala, Bony, Sagna, Fernando (inho whichever one came this summer) for City?
Welbeck, Paulista, Debuchy, Chambers for Arsenal?
Cuadrado, Phillipe Luis for Chelsea?

[Lecter]

I think Joe Allen for £15m has been okay. If you remember when we signed him, then Brendan didn't have any scouts and the club didn't have many options for him so they went for players he worked with before. Considering the wages that Allen is on, over 5 or 6 seasons £15m won't be a bad investment. Borini has been disappointing but if he focked off last summer then we would have actually made a £3m profit on the lad....

Mignolet hasn't been a bad signing either for £9m. That gets you fock all these days and considering he is on a £40k per week salary as opposed to Reina's £120k, then the club save wages on Mignolet that pays for his transfer fee in just over 2 years. I think from FSG's point of view, that is the case with a lot of the players Brendan has signed - the likes of Bellamy, Maxi, Kuyt and Joe Cole were on about £2m a season more than their replacements.....

I think Moreno and Markovic have the potential to be okay players for LFC as well but not sure they were worth the transfer fees. I got slated last summer when I suggested that Ryan Bertrand would have been a good signing - i think Moreno has a higher potential but there is no doubt in mind that Bertrand would have been better for us this season.

Brendan is one of the best in the business at getting young players to develop into first team players - which is good because we have a lot of good young players coming through. I think if he goes in to a meeting with FSG in June though and asks for another 6 or 7 players, then he could be booted out if he is not careful. For me, Brendans best approach would be to say that we are going to get rid of Balotelli, Borini and Lambert and replace with Origi and one other top striker. That we are also going to get Milner on a free transfer and push Emre Can into midfield as well. And that we need to sign a top right back to replace Glen.

IMO Allen at £15m was not a good deal, we could have spent that money a lot more effectively (how much did Coutinho cost £8 or 9m?? Emre Can £10m?)

Same for Borini for £11m (we got Sturridge 6 months later for a shade over that amount)

Neither of those two deals were good imo

I think Mignolet will end up in that bracket as well frankly

[gratziani]

Think I am stuck in the dark ages I think 15 million on Allen is at least 8 million too much ,

I don't see how one season wonders in the Premier league can cost that much , and we have previous on this with Andy Carroll , Charlie Adam , even when we bought Henderson I thought we were ripped off , it is like you pay double the money for half the player that you can buy abroad ,

[The_weatherman]

Think I am stuck in the dark ages I think 15 million on Allen is at least 8 million too much ,

I don't see how one season wonders in the Premier league can cost that much , and we have previous on this with Andy Carroll , Charlie Adam , even when we bought Henderson I thought we were ripped off , it is like you pay double the money for half the player that you can buy abroad ,

You can add Downing and Lovren to that list.

[gratziani]

You can add Downing and Lovren to that list.

Think I have been hypnotised since then to forget about Downing ,

I am hoping that somehow Lovren can come good next season as don't see us moving him on

[captainfog]

I think most of those buys were the committees except maybe Lovren if you believe the rumours

That said I am fairly certain our manager was instrumental in spending £26 million on Borini & Allen so that isnt exactly an endorsement of his talent in the transfer market

Coutinho, Sturridge (when fit), Can (potentially) and maybe Sakho are the only signings of note during his tenure

Thats pretty ****ing damning whoever is in charge of the decision making

Rodgers - Lovren, Lambert and Lallana
Committee - Markovic, Balo, Moreno, Can, Manquillo

[The_weatherman]

Rodgers - Lovren, Lambert and Lallana
Committee - Markovic, Balo, Moreno, Can, Manquillo

I think I've seen that mentioned before. It looks like Rodgers favours players from the PL, which I really don't think is a good strategy.